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		<title>By: Todd Cardin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Cardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a clinical social worker and researcher (and old enough to remember when this film came out).  It is a remarkable work of humanistic fiction—a fact largely unobserved by the generations who have had the bigeebers frightened out of them by this film. I would love to read any part of your thesis, even if it’s just the bibliography.  And in case you haven’t considered this perspective, the archaic “pathogenic mother” described above can be interpreted in a more androgynous way.  Consider the cold, calculating machine that is Mother (the computer refusing to shut down the auto-destruct sequence of the ship), the machine (android) that is Ash (the masculine figure whose programming lacks awareness of or regard for the humanistic qualities of humans), and the “perfect killing machine” that is the alien itself.  These elements play out in stark contrast to Ripley’s nurturing instincts which are expressed in rescuing the cat, her concerns for the crew’s safety when Dallas wants to lift off from the surface of the planetoid before all repairs are completed, and her willingness to place a higher value on the well-being of a few humans over the enormous capital value of the ship and its payload).

While Ripley portrays an androgynous humanism by retaining her nurturing side as she is forced to access aggressive survival instincts, the elements conspiring against her seem to embody A-humanistic manifestations of propagation—rape, corporate greed, and the objectification and abandoning of the nurturing components of human nature (i.e. the sacred feminine).  These conspiring elements—subparts of the “pathogenic mother”—are (like Ripley) both masculine and feminine in nature.  Mother (the ship’s computer) mechanically sustains life, but fails to nurture or ultimately protect life in her vessel.  Ash, the android who mechanically goes through the motions of appearing to attend to the crew’s medical needs for the first portion of the film sardonically smirks and says, “you have my sympathies,” after attempting to overpower and penetrate Ripley with a rolled up magazine when she learns of his true directive.  The monster (both phallic and feminine in appearance) blatantly represents purely aggressive instincts to feed and propagate.  Ripley and the rest of the crew are placed in the lethal path of this naked aggression by the Company (a faceless corporation looking to profit from the monster’s potential value as a military weapon).  

The most significant cultural value of this film may be its prophetic warning.  We might want to be careful, for we may indeed reap what we sow.  Rape the universe in mechanized ways, and she will surely propagate, but her offspring will be less human and more mechanized with each succession.  Humanistic tendencies such as “sympathies” may become archaic dust eroded from the human experience.  It should come as no surprise then when our children (our forced penetrations and blind ambitions) come back to rape us.  It should come as no surprise when we are fed upon and ultimately destroyed by that which sprang from within.  This entire treatise is brilliantly sublimated by the film’s haunting androgynous phallic image of the creature found perched behind its uplifted cannon, ribs bent outward, a gaping exit wound in the chest where naked aggression had gestated.  Cock and womb are androgynously  symbolized by an other-worldly creature whose mouth is contorted in a scream, which of course nobody can hear in space.  What O’Bannon appears to confront us with in this image is a foreshadowing of the future we humans may be writing for ourselves if we don’t do a better job of incorporating the nurturing sacred feminine into our androgyny.  We may, in fact, be the pathogenic mother of future generations.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a clinical social worker and researcher (and old enough to remember when this film came out).  It is a remarkable work of humanistic fiction—a fact largely unobserved by the generations who have had the bigeebers frightened out of them by this film. I would love to read any part of your thesis, even if it’s just the bibliography.  And in case you haven’t considered this perspective, the archaic “pathogenic mother” described above can be interpreted in a more androgynous way.  Consider the cold, calculating machine that is Mother (the computer refusing to shut down the auto-destruct sequence of the ship), the machine (android) that is Ash (the masculine figure whose programming lacks awareness of or regard for the humanistic qualities of humans), and the “perfect killing machine” that is the alien itself.  These elements play out in stark contrast to Ripley’s nurturing instincts which are expressed in rescuing the cat, her concerns for the crew’s safety when Dallas wants to lift off from the surface of the planetoid before all repairs are completed, and her willingness to place a higher value on the well-being of a few humans over the enormous capital value of the ship and its payload).</p>
<p>While Ripley portrays an androgynous humanism by retaining her nurturing side as she is forced to access aggressive survival instincts, the elements conspiring against her seem to embody A-humanistic manifestations of propagation—rape, corporate greed, and the objectification and abandoning of the nurturing components of human nature (i.e. the sacred feminine).  These conspiring elements—subparts of the “pathogenic mother”—are (like Ripley) both masculine and feminine in nature.  Mother (the ship’s computer) mechanically sustains life, but fails to nurture or ultimately protect life in her vessel.  Ash, the android who mechanically goes through the motions of appearing to attend to the crew’s medical needs for the first portion of the film sardonically smirks and says, “you have my sympathies,” after attempting to overpower and penetrate Ripley with a rolled up magazine when she learns of his true directive.  The monster (both phallic and feminine in appearance) blatantly represents purely aggressive instincts to feed and propagate.  Ripley and the rest of the crew are placed in the lethal path of this naked aggression by the Company (a faceless corporation looking to profit from the monster’s potential value as a military weapon).  </p>
<p>The most significant cultural value of this film may be its prophetic warning.  We might want to be careful, for we may indeed reap what we sow.  Rape the universe in mechanized ways, and she will surely propagate, but her offspring will be less human and more mechanized with each succession.  Humanistic tendencies such as “sympathies” may become archaic dust eroded from the human experience.  It should come as no surprise then when our children (our forced penetrations and blind ambitions) come back to rape us.  It should come as no surprise when we are fed upon and ultimately destroyed by that which sprang from within.  This entire treatise is brilliantly sublimated by the film’s haunting androgynous phallic image of the creature found perched behind its uplifted cannon, ribs bent outward, a gaping exit wound in the chest where naked aggression had gestated.  Cock and womb are androgynously  symbolized by an other-worldly creature whose mouth is contorted in a scream, which of course nobody can hear in space.  What O’Bannon appears to confront us with in this image is a foreshadowing of the future we humans may be writing for ourselves if we don’t do a better job of incorporating the nurturing sacred feminine into our androgyny.  We may, in fact, be the pathogenic mother of future generations.</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
		<link>http://www.top10films.co.uk/archives/1600/comment-page-1#comment-15550</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea how you managed to summarise that Creed text so well but it&#039;s a lot of help right now since I&#039;m writing my thesis on femininity in the Alien franchise :) Actually you&#039;re going to be in my bibliography so thanks a lot again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea how you managed to summarise that Creed text so well but it&#8217;s a lot of help right now since I&#8217;m writing my thesis on femininity in the Alien franchise <img src='http://www.top10films.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Actually you&#8217;re going to be in my bibliography so thanks a lot again!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.top10films.co.uk/archives/1600/comment-page-1#comment-3101</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I could spend all day talking Alien with you.  It was such a diverse film too.  It was horror, suspense, and science fiction.  It was so new, and the trailer for it still gives me chills.

No one can hear you scream in space.

Ridley Scott is the man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I could spend all day talking Alien with you.  It was such a diverse film too.  It was horror, suspense, and science fiction.  It was so new, and the trailer for it still gives me chills.</p>
<p>No one can hear you scream in space.</p>
<p>Ridley Scott is the man.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.top10films.co.uk/archives/1600/comment-page-1#comment-2955</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Fernando. This took a bit of time to put together but it was well worth it. Analysing a favourite film is always a joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Fernando. This took a bit of time to put together but it was well worth it. Analysing a favourite film is always a joy.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando</title>
		<link>http://www.top10films.co.uk/archives/1600/comment-page-1#comment-2907</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent analysis. I love this type of philosophical approach to cinema. It makes you think and see the movie in terms you would never have suspected before.
And Alien, being a landmark film in so many aspects, clearly deserves this kind of treatment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent analysis. I love this type of philosophical approach to cinema. It makes you think and see the movie in terms you would never have suspected before.<br />
And Alien, being a landmark film in so many aspects, clearly deserves this kind of treatment</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.top10films.co.uk/archives/1600/comment-page-1#comment-2827</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Heather...such kind comments are really appreciated. Alien is one of those great films that goes beyond the horror film stereotype - it begs to be studied and viewed in the same way as any great work of cinema. It is a fabulous film in many ways, the fact it was so ahead of its time in terms of its female lead character is sometimes overlooked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Heather&#8230;such kind comments are really appreciated. Alien is one of those great films that goes beyond the horror film stereotype &#8211; it begs to be studied and viewed in the same way as any great work of cinema. It is a fabulous film in many ways, the fact it was so ahead of its time in terms of its female lead character is sometimes overlooked.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.top10films.co.uk/archives/1600/comment-page-1#comment-2824</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, great, great article. Where I always found success in the character of Ripley was what a lot of the points here have been made.........she did basically just switch roles with the male lead.  She wasn&#039;t sexed up, she didn&#039;t have super powers, she was just a character taking the initiative.  In a way it wasn&#039;t about her being a female, it was about her being a human.  There wasn&#039;t a clear definition of her sex.  If never mentioned in a book or script, the reader would have never known if Ripley was a woman or a man.  One of cinema&#039;s greatest character&#039;s of all time.  I love that you posted this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, great, great article. Where I always found success in the character of Ripley was what a lot of the points here have been made&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;she did basically just switch roles with the male lead.  She wasn&#8217;t sexed up, she didn&#8217;t have super powers, she was just a character taking the initiative.  In a way it wasn&#8217;t about her being a female, it was about her being a human.  There wasn&#8217;t a clear definition of her sex.  If never mentioned in a book or script, the reader would have never known if Ripley was a woman or a man.  One of cinema&#8217;s greatest character&#8217;s of all time.  I love that you posted this.</p>
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